Chart of the Day

Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Bayowolf » Aug 08, 2017 7:27 pm

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Am I reading this right?? Poverty in 2015 is less than 30% of what it was 1990? If so, why is Oxfam is "warning" us about Neo-liberalism? And why am I typing so many sentences that end with a question mark? Could it be because my computer is missing its interrobang key!?


No, you are simply not reading it right. World Bank produces those numbers by pretending inflation doesn't exist. "Extreme Poverty" in 1990 was defined as living on less than $1.90 per day. In 2008, for example, that number had inflated to less than $10.00 per day, but World Bank still uses the 1990 metrics based on was when they set their goals of reducing poverty.

In 2008 there were 5.15 billion people living in"extreme povert" representing about 80% of the total population (and about the total number of people than existed around 1990......

There us SOoooo much wrong with World Banks numbers its not even worth wasting your breath arguing with them.

So I was right! It is Statistical Quackery!
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Re: Chart of the Day

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Re: Chart of the Day

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As always, persecution by humanists is backfiring, and is instead bringing an explosion of christianity.
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Re: Chart of the Day

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Re: Chart of the Day

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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Americalex » Dec 18, 2017 11:54 am

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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Bayowolf » Dec 18, 2017 12:06 pm

^^^^^
"Wisdom" = "A (rudimentary) knowledge of the The Truth".
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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Americalex » Dec 18, 2017 1:21 pm

I like that definition for it -with rudimentary included-, we've all been douchebags at some point in our lives, eager to spam our newfound knowledge on others as if to display our superior grasp of reality.. only later we settle down into a realization that we were more foolish than those who didn't dare even venture a stance. The beginning of wisdom is that kernel of assurance that grows over time within us as we collect assumptions and understandings... to at least inform our own decisions without the pretension of imposing said framework on others.

With that said, it's interesting that I've typically held work titles such as "data visualization analyst" and recently seemingly graduated into a "strategic information analyst" mandate. Perhaps sometime in the future I will climb up unto a "Applied Knowledge Specialist", which will in turn pave the way to a "Renumerated Wise Guy", and ultimately hitting the jackpot of "Localized Truth Technician" or something of the sort. The book I'm writing is truly pretentious with a name "The Age of Truth" lol hopefully in a constructively informative enough way as to not sound way over the top in its aspirations.

On the adventure called life in a world with so many trolls who make it their journey to sabotage the manifestation of a just order, one can only take solace in the fact that most of our ups and down flow from luck and fate more than effort and dedication.. though these traits are certainly conducive to the emergence of said luck given the right attitude and timing. If you want to have it your way, be your own boss.. I'm struggling and mostly failing at the execution part, but failing means risking and risking brings learning so it's all dandy ultimately.
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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Fat Tony » Dec 18, 2017 5:33 pm

Criticisms:

Criticisms[edit]
Rafael Capurro, a philosopher based in Germany, argues that data is an abstraction, information refers to "the act of communicating meaning", and knowledge "is the event of meaning selection of a (psychic/social) system from its 'world' on the basis of communication". As such, any impression of a logical hierarchy between these concepts "is a fairytale".[35]

One objection offered by Zins is that, while knowledge may be an exclusively cognitive phenomenon, the difficulty in pointing to a given fact as being distinctively information or knowledge, but not both, makes the DIKW model unworkable.

[I]s Albert Einstein's famous equation "E = mc2" (which is printed on my computer screen, and is definitely separated from any human mind) information or knowledge? Is "2 + 2 = 4" information or knowledge?[2]

Alternatively, information and knowledge might be seen as synonyms.[36] In answer to these criticisms, Zins argues that, subjectivist and empiricist philosophy aside, "the three fundamental concepts of data, information, and knowledge and the relations among them, as they are perceived by leading scholars in the information science academic community", have meanings open to distinct definitions.[2] Rowley echoes this point in arguing that, where definitions of knowledge may disagree, "[t]hese various perspectives all take as their point of departure the relationship between data, information and knowledge."[16]

American philosophers John Dewey and Arthur Bentley, in their 1949 book Knowing and the Known, argued that "knowledge" was "a vague word", and presented a complex alternative to DIKW including some nineteen "terminological guide-posts".[8][37]

Information processing theory argues that the physical world is made of information itself.[citation needed] Under this definition, data is either made up of or synonymous with physical information. It is unclear, however, whether information as it is conceived in the DIKW model would be considered derivative from physical-information/data or synonymous with physical information. In the former case, the DIKW model is open to the fallacy of equivocation. In the latter, the data tier of the DIKW model is preempted by an assertion of neutral monism.

Educator Martin Frické has published an article critiquing the DIKW hierarchy, in which he argues that the model is based on "dated and unsatisfactory philosophical positions of operationalism and inductivism", that information and knowledge are both weak knowledge, and that wisdom is the "possession and use of wide practical knowledge.[38]


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Re: Chart of the Day

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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Fat Tony » Jan 01, 2018 7:26 pm

Very interesting. Even though it shows , there is no clear demarcation in the areas. Just as there are no units. What units do you use for a qualitative thing like thought? Well they are just as real as rock and soil.
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Re: Chart of the Day

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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Bayowolf » Aug 16, 2018 8:05 pm

Gigatons of what? Throw-weight?
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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Fat Tony » Aug 17, 2018 3:54 am

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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Americalex » Aug 20, 2018 1:47 pm

Concrete.

Let that settle in for a moment.
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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Bearsy » Aug 20, 2018 9:46 pm

It wouldn't be that impressive if USA had done another 4.5 gigatons between 2000-2013

When you're in the lead though there is less of a rush to expand and improve.
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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Americalex » Aug 21, 2018 9:18 am

One mitigator is that they have triple the population.

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I've read somewhere that the reason China is buying up all those arid lands in africa and building huge highways etc, as well as tons of huge empty cities in remote places in China is because they've analysed the climate changes to due solar minimums and the disruptive effects on agriculture: they have kind of prepared for all the places that will become good for farming ahead of time.

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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Bayowolf » Aug 21, 2018 12:51 pm

A number of years ago, I saw a documentary on the construction of Hoover Dam which, at the beginning of its construction, was the largest attempt at building a dam in history. Towards the end of the construction, the US launched the construction of 5 other dams (Ft. Peck and Grand Coulee were two of them; I don't recall the other three) each of which would have been the largest feat of engineering in human history if the other 4 wasn't being constructed at the same time. Dig it: At a certain time in the early 1930s--in the depths of the Great Depression, I might add--the 6 largest dams ever built were at some stage of construction in the American West.

At the same time, New York City had embarked on "the Great Skyscraper Race" that resulted in, among others, the Empire State Building and the Chrysler Building.

Later, we embarked on the construction of what I like to call "The Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways". You can see from it Space! :mrgreen:

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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Bearsy » Aug 22, 2018 2:43 am

So is that a common development phase towards modernization then? a necessary "concrete" spike?
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Re: Chart of the Day

Postby Americalex » Aug 22, 2018 9:03 am

It translates into this,



To me that's very impressive, all the mega projects combining into never before seen undertakings.

I saw a stat that right now, every year China builds highways going from New York to Los Angeles and back, literally.

And that's just a subset of all the shocking projects they undertake involving concrete.

Definitely they could do Windwalker's project and it would be considered a minor thing for them lol
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