"Nuclear Winter"

"Nuclear Winter"

Postby Fat Tony » Jan 04, 2018 11:44 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter

Propaganda, science, or an unknown mixture of the two?

This probably will not appeal to those younger than around 35 yrs. old.

Apparently the old controversies just repell ppl. today! C:|

One might suppose it does not compare with the heady "look at me I'm saving the planet by using less toilet paper" phenomenon. :)
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Re: "Nuclear Winter"

Postby Americalex » Jan 05, 2018 10:24 am

"Atomic Summer" lol
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Re: "Nuclear Winter"

Postby Fat Tony » Jan 05, 2018 5:25 pm

Then there is the still unsolved case concerning the disappearance of a Russian physicist who was doing work on the theory for the USSR. This was some time ago.

Climategate is not a new thing! And can I have an atomic blonde with that pls? :P
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Re: "Nuclear Winter"

Postby Windwalker » Jan 06, 2018 9:28 pm

The "Nuclear Winter" concept isn't without merit, but most of the models developed in the 1980's and earlier were largely over-stated. The models assumed 100% of the radioactive particles from every blast would end up in the jet-stream or higher, that Earth's terrain is 100% flat, and if every nuke in existence all went off at once, basically worst-case-scenario stuff to scare people into buying into the M.A.D. propaganda, for the purpose of promoting popular support for the banning of nuclear arms.

The sad reality of a full-scale, global, nuclear-weapons volley between 2 Nation States is that most of us would survive..... only to find out after that most of us are not capable of growing our food and providing for our own personal security any more, as our fractured infrastructure might take years, or even decades to recover.

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I think the best solution for Humanity to deal with the threat of Psychopaths getting their hands on Nukes is to build giant, geothermal powered greenhouses underground. Of course digging down 200 meters (where most northern latitudes hit a constant 72 degrees F) is cost prohibitive if you don't have a slave-army of starving NoKorean peasants to do the dangerous work by hand...
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Re: "Nuclear Winter"

Postby Fat Tony » Jan 09, 2018 10:49 pm

Air conditioning, drainage & air quality would be a constant problem. A colossal problem if the grid went down for significant periods.

Geothermal relies on the byproducts of radioactive decay of certain elemental species down there. As a result, this is a finite amount of energy that is available, like fossil fuels for example.

Studies would have to be done as to the maximum size & number of facilities the bedrock could handle over the planned life of the project in the area of interest.

Another concern would be biological monitoring. As the whole thing would be an experiment, it would have to be known what sorts of undesirable organisms might grow down there.

The Cdn. NORAD h.q. bunker in Thunder Bay had to be shut down over biological concerns.

Edit: to add, these systems depending on their capacity can cause earthquakes, which probably will upset the more indignant out rhere! :P
It is a good idea otherwise imo.
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