Post your fave mutiny

Post your fave mutiny

Postby Fat Tony » Jan 14, 2018 11:40 pm

This has the potential to be a looooong thread!

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-02-17/ ... oviet-navy

The Russians / Soviets are especially good at this sort of thing!

The little known mutiny aboard the USSR missile frigate Storozhevoy 
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Re: Post your fave mutiny

Postby Fat Tony » Feb 02, 2018 9:34 pm

The case of Alexander Kuzminykh is of interest. He was a junior engineer aboard a Russian SSN in 1998 when he started a mutiny of one. It ended badly. On the upside there was no nuclear fire started in the torp. room where he was holed up.

Usually in Commonwealth or British mutinies, the threat of extreme violence seemed to be far less. There seemed to be some vestige of humanity remaining in the mutineers and officers. The vestige of hope, could it be related to our Western Catholic/Protestant/Judaic tendency towards mercy, or cultural bias?
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Re: Post your fave mutiny

Postby Windwalker » Feb 06, 2018 3:29 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1151293/The-bloodiest-mutiny-The-day-cruellest-captain-British-Navy-pushed-long-suffering-crew-far.html

This one is for any British fuck-heads who live under the delusion the American Revolution and subsequent 1812 war were not justifiable reactions to the evil the Empire represented in our world at this time. There were probably American slaves serving in this boat (a detail conveniently left out by the UK based website).

18th and 19th century Britain = 20th century Nazi Germany.
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Re: Post your fave mutiny

Postby Fat Tony » Feb 06, 2018 8:18 pm

They had all the toys back then that Stalin & co had until his death. You have a 100 percent valid point. The sepoy rebellions are good examples. They just were very good at whitewashing what they did and why. A good example is that in Canadian period textbooks dating back to the 1950s, used until the late 1970s, the Sepoy rebellions were about non kosher bullet lubricant in ammunition stores the Sepoys had to use (bite to dump the powder out) We all know now that it was nothing to do with non kosher bullet lubricant, but how shabbily the locals were treated by the Raj and the colonial administration.
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Re: Post your fave mutiny

Postby Windwalker » Feb 06, 2018 11:58 pm

Ya, provincial governors and ship's captains were given absolute power. It's easy to criticize their methods today in the communications age. That said, most of these men prob would have had a strong case for self defense in today's Courts.

This was obviously a case of a psychopathic little spoiled brat working well above his natural status by clinging to his father's coat-tails. Not that nepotism doesn't still exist, but it was celebrated as the proper way of doing thing by the British for centuries. Perhaps some sort of side effect of them being the narrowest gene-pool in Europe, perhaps? (Or maybe their tendency toward nepotism was the cause of the narrow gene-pool? Chicken or egg argument.)
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Re: Post your fave mutiny

Postby Fat Tony » Feb 07, 2018 9:05 pm

The name of the Russian SSN was Vepr by the way. Based in Severomorsk.
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Re: Post your fave mutiny

Postby Fat Tony » Feb 08, 2018 5:46 am

https://athabaskang07.wordpress.com/200 ... -mutinies/

I talked to a few rcn hands from this era.

One of the things which happened was Chief & Petty offficers could enroll in a transfer program to the RCN. They had top pick of positions, got to take their better than though attitudes with them. How would younexpect a CDN. NCO or rating take something like that?

The 1949 mutinies & the previous HMCS Uganda'non mutiny' were to be expected.
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Re: Post your fave mutiny

Postby Fat Tony » Feb 08, 2018 5:55 am

http://www.frayedknotarts.com/antiques.html

^Scroll down a bit for a fascinating display of 18-19 century coshes, some possibly RN.
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