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Postby Americalex » Sep 26, 2014 9:42 pm

Bayowolf wrote:@'Alex: In all the years I've visiting this website, you have told us that you're against "evolutionism".

It's not that I'm against it, it's that I don't subscribe to that theory, as the assumptions it relies on are erroneous in my opinion. Could it be true? We cannot test it, those who came up with it have made it so that it cannot be tested since you require a stupid amount of time to do any testing -which we don't have-, so in that sense, while it may be considered a scientific theory based on circumstantial evidence (like the geological scale, which I find to be utterly invalid and wrong).. it is not like other normal scientific theories, such as the theory of gravity, because that one is readily testable and is continues to be reliably tested. I oppose it on the basis that it is erroneous, and on the understanding that as a false teaching of the false religion called humanism, it is at the root of much hatred and suffering in this world, namely modern racism understood directly as a result of this immensely stupid evolutionist prism and the conception of certain ethnic groups being more "familiar" with apes than others. There are much starker moral reasons to object to this false doctrine, since it serves as a foundation for people to justify a rationale for their atheism, materialism, naturalism and anti-theism... all of which are demonstrably evil inducing in many ways.. some drastically evil... genocide grade evil.

Bayowolf wrote:Why do you object to the theory of evolution? (I can make an educated guess but if I express this guess in my words, you would maybe...no, probably...object to the way I express it. You see: Unlike some, I extend to *others* the common courtesy of NOT pretending that I'm Karnak the Magnificent by telling *others* what *they* believe and how *they* think.)

  • Evolutionism says that entropy is bullshit but entropy is observed and tested, tried and true. Evolutionism cannot stand unless entropy falls, and entropy stands.
  • The geological scale is complete bullshit. The tectonic plates induction and subduction crap is complete garbage and the current scientific consensus about that stuff is immensely retarded. A lot of the carbon dating methodology is outright fraudulent with a confirmed bias heavily tilted towards reinforcing the doubtful assumptions of geological history upon which evolutionism rests its entire credibility.
  • Fossils have also been incredibly abused in terms of dating and outright hoaxes, especially the original ones that were deceptively used to promote the credibility of that pseudo-science.
  • The notion that random mutations can be positive in terms of increasing the complexity of organisms completely flies in the face of any sound logic and in fact this has never been demonstrated by the propagandists of that pseudo-scientific ideology, in spite of the fact that they shamelessly ejaculate their theory as an undebatable truth.
  • Interspeciation remains an elusive concept that has never been exemplified by a factual example. Instead evolutionists dish up variations and adaptations within a given specie, something which is perfectly acknowledged and acceptable without recoursing to evolutionism as per the adaptive nature of genetic traits within a given unchanging genome, based on the rigors of any given environment.
  • Even if we would take evolutionism on the premise of its Hindu origins as per life being a sentient force that improves itself over time with an intent and a self learning memory which increases its own complexity over time (rather than the evolutinist "randomly for no reason because nothing has value and nothing means anything and it's all for nothing because humans are animals even though they can talk and make tools and innovate constantly) we still end up a dead end in terms of lack of evidence corroborating such a phenomenon.

Bayowolf wrote:If your reason is faith-based, then the second question comes in two parts:

Are there other scientific theories that you disbelieve? (Not AGW--I know about that.) (E.g., do you disbelieve in Gravity and, instead, believe that God put miraculously invisible Velcro on all of our feet?) (Sorry for the facetiousness--I couldn't help myself.)

If my reason were faith based that would be retarded. As stated above the difference between gravity and evolution is that one has been tested over and over and the other can't ever be tested ever. Are you sufficiently intelligent to acknowledge that conceptual difference or are you enslaved to your humanist faith at the expense of reality and immune to casual argumentative logic when it challenges your faith based pseudo scientific beliefs?

Bayowolf wrote:In all seriousness, who are you to decide how God works His Mojo.

I'm a person who doesn't follow deceivers since that would amount to sundering myself from the Truth hence from God. And we know that the entire pseudo-scientific premises upon which this theory was built and forced down our collective throats by humanist propagandists is well documented as having been through reliance on lies, fraud and deception: the opposite of any rational scientific pursuit of the Truth in the interest of fully grasping and embracing reality in all its beauty and greatness.

Bayowolf wrote: How do you *know* that evolution is not God's Method of Creation?

Because I understand (based on recent discoveries made by emerging complex sciences such as genetics and quantum physics especially) that reality is itself akin to a big ass holographic projection, made possible by the distortion of time from space. When you are outside of time and space, as God is, a lot of things are possible that don't require humanist notions in order to come about lol You can't even consider such possibilities because your humanist materialism prevents you from even conceptualizing such things.

Why would God pick a way that goes against so many of the rules (entropy, mutative degenerescence, etc.) he established in that created order? Only an Islamist might agree with humanists such as you about God being that way, in fact doesn't Islam specifically endorse evolutionism? I'm pretty sure that it does. I prefer the Catholic stance according to which evolution theory is a theory worthy of consideration and study based on the orthodox modern scientific assumptions concerning the geological scale, but that unless it can be demonstrated empirically through irrefutable evidence and scientific testing we cannot with a sound mind elevate it to the status of worshipful dogma that humanists so eagerly and recklessly do.

If the Catholic Church was fully aware of the extent of the stupidity and deception involved with the modernist scientific consensus concerning the accepted assumptions of the geological scale upon which evolutionism rests it's credibility, they would certainly revise their position and become more cautious and guarded. The fact is that the main reason why I think evolutionism is a giant load of crap is because the actual geological evidence of our Earth clearly documents the existence of a great flood, a fact corroborated by nearly all mythological streams of ancient cultures. If there was such a great deluge, then there cannot have been the modernist geological scale used to lend evolutionism is scientific credibility, it's really that simple.
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Re: Quote of the Day

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Re: Quote of the Day

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I don't agree with everything Thomas Aquinas said, and I don't disagree with everything Ayn Rand said :)
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby NightShade » Nov 02, 2014 4:55 pm

Americalex wrote:It's not that I'm against it, it's that I don't subscribe to that theory, as the assumptions it relies on are erroneous in my opinion. Could it be true? We cannot test it, those who came up with it have made it so that it cannot be tested since you require a stupid amount of time to do any testing -which we don't have-, so in that sense, while it may be considered a scientific theory based on circumstantial evidence (like the geological scale, which I find to be utterly invalid and wrong).. it is not like other normal scientific theories, such as the theory of gravity, because that one is readily testable and is continues to be reliably tested. I oppose it on the basis that it is erroneous, and on the understanding that as a false teaching of the false religion called humanism, it is at the root of much hatred and suffering in this world, namely modern racism understood directly as a result of this immensely stupid evolutionist prism and the conception of certain ethnic groups being more "familiar" with apes than others. There are much starker moral reasons to object to this false doctrine, since it serves as a foundation for people to justify a rationale for their atheism, materialism, naturalism and anti-theism... all of which are demonstrably evil inducing in many ways.. some drastically evil... genocide grade evil.

  • Evolutionism says that entropy is bullshit but entropy is observed and tested, tried and true. Evolutionism cannot stand unless entropy falls, and entropy stands.
  • The geological scale is complete bullshit. The tectonic plates induction and subduction crap is complete garbage and the current scientific consensus about that stuff is immensely retarded. A lot of the carbon dating methodology is outright fraudulent with a confirmed bias heavily tilted towards reinforcing the doubtful assumptions of geological history upon which evolutionism rests its entire credibility.
  • Fossils have also been incredibly abused in terms of dating and outright hoaxes, especially the original ones that were deceptively used to promote the credibility of that pseudo-science.
  • The notion that random mutations can be positive in terms of increasing the complexity of organisms completely flies in the face of any sound logic and in fact this has never been demonstrated by the propagandists of that pseudo-scientific ideology, in spite of the fact that they shamelessly ejaculate their theory as an undebatable truth.
  • Interspeciation remains an elusive concept that has never been exemplified by a factual example. Instead evolutionists dish up variations and adaptations within a given specie, something which is perfectly acknowledged and acceptable without recoursing to evolutionism as per the adaptive nature of genetic traits within a given unchanging genome, based on the rigors of any given environment.
  • Even if we would take evolutionism on the premise of its Hindu origins as per life being a sentient force that improves itself over time with an intent and a self learning memory which increases its own complexity over time (rather than the evolutinist "randomly for no reason because nothing has value and nothing means anything and it's all for nothing because humans are animals even though they can talk and make tools and innovate constantly) we still end up a dead end in terms of lack of evidence corroborating such a phenomenon.

If my reason were faith based that would be retarded. As stated above the difference between gravity and evolution is that one has been tested over and over and the other can't ever be tested ever. Are you sufficiently intelligent to acknowledge that conceptual difference or are you enslaved to your humanist faith at the expense of reality and immune to casual argumentative logic when it challenges your faith based pseudo scientific beliefs?

I'm a person who doesn't follow deceivers since that would amount to sundering myself from the Truth hence from God. And we know that the entire pseudo-scientific premises upon which this theory was built and forced down our collective throats by humanist propagandists is well documented as having been through reliance on lies, fraud and deception: the opposite of any rational scientific pursuit of the Truth in the interest of fully grasping and embracing reality in all its beauty and greatness.


There is so much wrong with this post - fallacy after fallacy. I'll just say that evolution in fact is perpetuated and thrives on entropy. Further, ethnic based systems of and rationale for racial repression clearly precedes the theory of evolution by centuries. The Linnaean taxonomy system is an obvious example, preceding Darwin's work by nearly a century.

You're parroting old half-remembered talking points that were in fashion twenty years ago but I'm sure sound timeless to those in need of aid to their cognitive dissonance. If you had any interest of fully grasping and embracing reality in all its beauty and greatness you would read a book rather than sunder and debase that beauty by reducing the world into a vulgar and tired dualism. For a decade, every thread you enter is premised on the dichotomy between socialists and capitalists or, as of late, Catholics and Islamo-humanist cyborg-barbarians.

Americalex wrote:Because I understand (based on recent discoveries made by emerging complex sciences such as genetics and quantum physics especially) that reality is itself akin to a big ass holographic projection, made possible by the distortion of time from space. When you are outside of time and space, as God is, a lot of things are possible that don't require humanist notions in order to come about lol You can't even consider such possibilities because your humanist materialism prevents you from even conceptualizing such things.


It's hard to square the utter pretentious contempt for well meaning visitors with the reductive, brainless appeal to tired dualism. Somehow reminiscent of everything you're supposedly against.

Did you ever consider that perhaps it was humanists equipped with materialist notions that allowed not just these recent discoveries but in fact was the foundation which the scientific disciplines of genetics and quantum physics were conceptualized upon. Indeed, humanist notions were required in order for them to come about lol

You have jettisoned all meaning and significance from the word "humanism". You deploy words with little to no working historical context. I'm reasonably sure it would be more accurate to refer to what you're attacking as positivism but that would require you to have read post-Enlightenment philosophy and history...

The notion that philosophers, especially on the far left, can't conceptualize relations of time and space to a void is ridiculous. Alain Badiou is a well known and respected contemporary French philosopher for whom Truth is a specifically philosophical category. Further, he posits that formal objects do not exist. One of the aims of his thought is to show that his categories of truth are useful for any type of philosophical critique. He uses them to interrogate history, ontology and scientific discovery

Americalex wrote:Why would God pick a way that goes against so many of the rules (entropy, mutative degenerescence, etc.) he established in that created order? Only an Islamist might agree with humanists such as you about God being that way, in fact doesn't Islam specifically endorse evolutionism? I'm pretty sure that it does. I prefer the Catholic stance according to which evolution theory is a theory worthy of consideration and study based on the orthodox modern scientific assumptions concerning the geological scale, but that unless it can be demonstrated empirically through irrefutable evidence and scientific testing we cannot with a sound mind elevate it to the status of worshipful dogma that humanists so eagerly and recklessly do.

If the Catholic Church was fully aware of the extent of the stupidity and deception involved with the modernist scientific consensus concerning the accepted assumptions of the geological scale upon which evolutionism rests it's credibility, they would certainly revise their position and become more cautious and guarded. The fact is that the main reason why I think evolutionism is a giant load of crap is because the actual geological evidence of our Earth clearly documents the existence of a great flood, a fact corroborated by nearly all mythological streams of ancient cultures. If there was such a great deluge, then there cannot have been the modernist geological scale used to lend evolutionism is scientific credibility, it's really that simple.


Tell me more about this "Catholic stance" in light of the pope's recent remarks. Had more here but the forums ate my post.

Catastrophic floods do not in any way discredit geological time scales. You go first.
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Americalex » Nov 02, 2014 7:46 pm

Nightshade wrote:There is so much wrong with this post - fallacy after fallacy. I'll just say that evolution in fact is perpetuated and thrives on entropy. Further, ethnic based systems of and rationale for racial repression clearly precedes the theory of evolution by centuries. The Linnaean taxonomy system is an obvious example, preceding Darwin's work by nearly a century.

You're parroting old half-remembered talking points that were in fashion twenty years ago but I'm sure sound timeless to those in need of aid to their cognitive dissonance. If you had any interest of fully grasping and embracing reality in all its beauty and greatness you would read a book rather than sunder and debase that beauty by reducing the world into a vulgar and tired dualism. For a decade, every thread you enter is premised on the dichotomy between socialists and capitalists or, as of late, Catholics and Islamo-humanist cyborg-barbarians.

So far you're pretty big on ad hominem and small on actual argumentative logic, but thanks for at least engaging me in a conversation about these things. To be precise, as of late I refer to Judeo-Christianity (where Judeo is mainly Reform Judaism and Christian is mainly Catholicism) pit against Islamo-Humanism (where Islam and Humanism are allies of convenience through their commonly shared hatred for all things Judeo-Christian).

Nightshade wrote:It's hard to square the utter pretentious contempt for well meaning visitors with the reductive, brainless appeal to tired dualism. Somehow reminiscent of everything you're supposedly against.

Did you ever consider that perhaps it was humanists equipped with materialist notions that allowed not just these recent discoveries but in fact was the foundation which the scientific disciplines of genetics and quantum physics were conceptualized upon. Indeed, humanist notions were required in order for them to come about lol

You have jettisoned all meaning and significance from the word "humanism". You deploy words with little to no working historical context. I'm reasonably sure it would be more accurate to refer to what you're attacking as positivism but that would require you to have read post-Enlightenment philosophy and history...

The notion that philosophers, especially on the far left, can't conceptualize relations of time and space to a void is ridiculous. Alain Badiou is a well known and respected contemporary French philosopher for whom Truth is a specifically philosophical category. Further, he posits that formal objects do not exist. One of the aims of his thought is to show that his categories of truth are useful for any type of philosophical critique. He uses them to interrogate history, ontology and scientific discovery

So you deny that radical humanists are atheists, evolutionists, materialists, naturalists and anti-theists, basically?

Nightshade wrote:Tell me more about this "Catholic stance" in light of the pope's recent remarks. Had more here but the forums ate my post.

As I already said in another post, the humanists have succeeded in putting their pope in the Vatican, they say so themselves. One should not be surprised that a humanist pope would proclaim humanist things at the expense of Catholicism!

Nightshade wrote:Catastrophic floods do not in any way discredit geological time scales. You go first.

It's a good thing that I am referring to a single cataclysmic flood of global proportion, known in Judeo-Christian mythology as the great flood, and not some 'catastrophic floods' as you call them.
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Bayowolf » Nov 04, 2014 11:40 am

It's a good thing that I am referring to a single cataclysmic flood of global proportion, known in Judeo-Christian mythology as the great flood, and not some 'catastrophic floods' as you call them.


On the mountains east of Salt Lake City are water marks indicating that the place where SLC is was 200-400 feet underwater.

No cataclysm there: Just the existence of Lake Bonneville.
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Americalex » Nov 04, 2014 8:38 pm

Based on my theory, Lake Bonneville would have itself been a remnant pond of the actual flood aftermath (the oceans being the primary remnant of the great flood), as per Earth having drastically expanded in diameter following the cataclysm.
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Re: Quote of the Day

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Americalex wrote:Based on my theory, Lake Bonneville would have itself been a remnant pond of the actual flood aftermath (the oceans being the primary remnant of the great flood), as per Earth having drastically expanded in diameter following the cataclysm.

What was the mechanism causing the expansion of the Earth? Steam or something? :?:
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Americalex » Nov 05, 2014 9:36 am

LOL

Planets are like stars that lack the mass to ignite. Hence Earth is made of hyper compressed solid hydrogen which acquires metallic properties enabling the geomagnetic field to exist. How is oxigen formed? At the center of stars, from hyper compressed hydrogen. Hydrogen + Oxygen = Water. The mechanism is the same as a black hole, the centrifugal effect attracts space debris over huge amounts of time, becoming the "crust" made of all those things we take for granted, but underneath is that hydrogen ice core. Over time it generated a lot of hyper compressed water ice, which was then released in the great flood when the great arctic fault scraped open, unleashing "the fountains of the deep" upon the world. Pressure lessened from continents pushed away by water led to expanded hydrogen ice core basically.

The sheer mass of the expanding water (which was compressed 30x+ in terms of volume) pushed the "debris of the crust" and made the planet expand by virtue of suddenly occupying a huge portion of the planet, so a lot of places moved dramatic distances in an adrubpt change. Then the whole thing froze over and as the glaciation receeded mankind started settling more and more places again (civilization sprouted out of Egypt, Sumer and Pheonicia originally), most would agree that Sumer was the oldest, with the city of Ur being the original settlement when agriculture "restarted" once the climatic shifts had stabilized and it could once again be practiced.

The emptied core of hyper pressurized ice certainly made hyper-compressed hydrogen around it fill the vacuum, but the whole thing thankfully froze over. Teleport to today with the Arctic fucking melting, and imagine that melting happening in the artic fault line leading back to the Earth's core, which in turn is leading to the pressure cooker "hydrogen steam" to ejaculate from the core, and it mixes with the "athmospheric gases" which in turn generates arctic concentrations of methane that "baffle ALL prediction models" because those models are all based upon calculations that account only for the pergelifrost but this is something else entirely. The methane concentration is now above 2700ppm and rises 5km above sea level over the arctic! (the chart is from 2010)

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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Americalex » Nov 07, 2014 11:00 am

Look,

Circulation slowdown allows ozone-destroying chemical to rebuild in Northern Hemisphere
http://www2.ucar.edu/atmosnews/just-pub ... s-comeback

Again on the rise, only in the arctic. The humanists blame it on "lack of currents" in that region, but what is causing this "lack of circulation" can only be the gas jetting out from the arctic crevasse leading back to the core. Common thing in methane and hydrogen chlorine? They are both the produce of hydrogen and some other elements. I know that humanists prefer do die burning a blue fire death than acknowledge that they are full of shit wrong, but come on, how much more stubborn and in denial must one be to refuse to consider the self-evident.

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The concept of barroom shoot-outs and duels in the sun have no part in our tradition either, possibly because we have had so few barrooms and so little sun. "(It is akward to reach efficiently for a six-gun while wearing a parka and two pairs of mittens.)"
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