An Interesting Border

Re: An Interesting Border

Postby TexanforUNA » Sep 17, 2014 11:09 am

ok Mr AmeriAlex, if your attitude is anything to judge by, i think i'm beginning to understand why this movement hasn't progressed. You have a nice day!

Again, i'm not going to sit around and feed the fire of your crazy. Believe it or not, it's possible that Americans may have a better conception of their own country than a Quebecer (one who's admittedly not even familiar with the primary sources regarding the subject he thinks he knows so much about). I feel no desire, to debate you on the merits of the Supreme court, because as you've already demonstrated, you are not even familiar with the most basic concepts surrounding the discussion. Unfalsifiable claims and asymmetrical historical accounts aren't intelligent debate.
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Americalex » Sep 17, 2014 11:15 am

^ Maximum butt hurt

I'm sorry I do not meet your ivory tower requirements for having a discussion about subjects that you take to heart. Have a good day too, sorry that my personal positions about things offended you to the point where you are unable to countenance participating any further. I'm glad you were able to get your emotional load off your chest though, have a good one.

It's one of the problems I've observed from many emotionalists: they seek to project their own beliefs onto a political idea, even if those beliefs aren't related to the core idea being vehiculated by that wagon.. And when they are frustrated and disappointed by the reality that said thing isn't a duplicate of their every belief, they despise it.

You seem to believe that I have the power to impose a certain framework and means of achieving an annexation? Like I would be a somehow relevant player in determinations of such nature? I'm just a private citizen encouraging discussions on these topics. Of course I have my views, that doesn't mean they are a "my way or the highway" affair, that's retarded.
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby TexanforUNA » Sep 17, 2014 11:20 am

Butt hurt? Lol, just have better things to do than argue with a guy not educated in the subject he thinks he knows so much about. You haven't read any biographies, you have no primary sources to quote from. Therefore to debate you is to only engage your opinion, which unfortunately isn't worth very much and isn't supported by anything but your narcissism. And as i said earlier, i have a class to instruct, which I'm sure will be a more more useful exercise in intellect than talking with you.
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Americalex » Sep 17, 2014 11:28 am

I'd be interested to know what your students think of this conversation, maybe have a vote as to which ones side with me on this lol You came here to piss all over the forums, you've accomplished that, /clap. You are not the first participant to have such outbursts, nor will you be the last. Hope you feel refreshed now. Fortunately, this website will keep on trucking despite your raging ire.

Are you still pro-annexation or are you opposed to the idea, now that you've had these exchanges with me? :lol:
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby TexanforUNA » Sep 17, 2014 11:31 am

lol you're opinion isn't qualified to be seriously debated in an academic setting bud. What is it about that you don't understand? You also have a tendency to refer to this movement in terms which suggest you own it, you don't! I'm not sure how telling you how wrong you are is "pissing all over the forums" but i do understand how a self absorbed individual may take it that way.

You don't define "the community". And i certainly don't hear anyone else complaining about what i've said; just you.

i've never been strictly pro annexation, as i said in an earlier post, it would be my preference we find another method of union. But yes, my commitment to a United North America certainly goes beyond a single individual who thinks he rules an internet forum.
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Americalex » Sep 17, 2014 11:33 am

Okay, so this is all about "let's hate on Alex", got it. Very academic lol Of course I don't own this movement, neither does your beloved "UNA" by the way. I own this website, I own this open discussion forum: you think it is your duty to come here and ejaculate all of your accumulated anger as a bitter UNA fanboy, and now you've accomplished that. Congratulations? :roll: You think I am detrimental to the movement and that I should be dissociated from it, you have made that very clear. You are angry that I own a private website that enables these open discussions among private citizens of any background from North America and beyond, okay.
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby TexanforUNA » Sep 17, 2014 11:36 am

Owning an internet a public internet forum means nothing bud. There are plenty of other voices being raised in support of this idea. And truth me told, you'll probably be the biggest stumbling block to this movements success. Lets thank God you're confined to the internet where you belong!
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Americalex » Sep 17, 2014 11:37 am

It means nothing to you, clearly. You'd sleep better at night if I shut it down to accomodate your intolerance and hate perhaps? Not happening, sorry. You remind me of another member from the UNA days, called Alero, he was planning on moving to Texas, you guys should link up.. lol I'm flattered that you think I have so much power as to be "the biggest stumbling block for this movement", but you are delusional: I'm just a nobody with an opinion! However, I heartily welcome your acrimonious dissociation from myself, with open arms!

Good luck to you and all others of your persuasion, you will certainly need it!
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby TexanforUNA » Sep 17, 2014 11:56 am

Lol internet hyperbole is the best. Hate and intolerance lol? Why you ought to report me to the United Nations for breaching your right to a grandiose sense of self!
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Americalex » Sep 17, 2014 11:57 am

You should consider taking your medication at this point.. :roll:
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Americalex » Sep 17, 2014 12:16 pm

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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Windwalker » Sep 17, 2014 4:57 pm

I love it when newbs choose the "Debate" forum to post in, then get butt-hurt when someone wants to debate with them. :?

I find it unfortunate that someone who obviously has an intelligent mind (and who apparently lurked here for some time before posting) would automatically discard peoples opinions on this site just because it is an internet forum, and not some "peer reviewed" piece of crap from 1780 something.

My observation is that TexanforUNA thought that he/she would be automatically welcomed here, and would quickly be elevated to some sort of "leadership role" by those who frequent these forums. (thus the real motivation for the obvious leap to butt-hurtedness)
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Bayowolf » Sep 17, 2014 5:42 pm

fundamental illogism of having a federal government being its own arbiter as to what it can or cannot do?


I dunno--but, as far as I can tell, *ALL* top-level governments (i.e., governments of polities that are not part of a larger polity) are "[arbiters] as to what [they] can or cannot do" (at until a revolution comes along or the particular polity loses a war and has its regime changed).

I'm sure you have seen this before:

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I know that I've seen this before:

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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Americalex » Sep 18, 2014 7:14 am

@Windwalker Not so sure about the noob part, sounded like a goblin of the pack of mentally unstable people from UNA (monorprise, alero, etc). I've cut ties with some people recently and this is bound to generate some bitter lashouts from their peculiar crowd.

@Bayowolf Yes but that doesn't mean that the status quo is a desirable state of things from the perspective of establishing sound limited government better serving the interests of the population. I understand that in the modern school of thought such an arrangement is the norm, but your country originally had the senate doing that role of constitutional arbiters, back when the senators were selected by the states rather than elected. They would of course oppose laws that were going beyond the limits assigned to the general government, as they were there to reiterate the interests of their state. Instead of this, we now have incremental unlimited government, with the Feds only pushing as far as public opinion will carry them, inexorably aggregating more and more power towards themselves. The Senate was part of the general governments but the senators were sent there by their state, for their state.

I didn't know it was the symbol of the supreme Court of Canada! The supreme courts have their role of course but it shouldn't be "to justify unlimited government for the government they are a branch of", that's just wrong. Their classical role as ultimate court to administer justice in the land is noble, especially when contrasted with their current risible one as apologists of unlimited government.
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Windwalker » Sep 18, 2014 5:54 pm

The supreme courts have their role of course but it shouldn't be "to justify unlimited government for the government they are a branch of", that's just wrong. Their classical role as ultimate court to administer justice in the land is noble, especially when contrasted with their current risible one as apologists of unlimited government.


Kind of like King George III illegally giving to himself the power to take away the rights of British Citizens, rights that were eventually re-confirmed via the Bill-of-Rights. Americans have a history of only putting up with this kind of nonsense so far, but alas, our rough-and-tumble frontier society is being incrementally folded back in with Europe proper.

Eventually, there will be another revolution....
Hopefully a bloodless one that allows us to correct our trajectory and continue exploring and expanding into the next frontier. The Socialists, however, seem to be hell-bent on preventing America from expanding into Space, even circulating treaties intended to prevent us from claiming territory outside of the earth (as if they can monopolize the entirety of the Universe or something, lol.)
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Re: An Interesting Border

Postby Americalex » Sep 18, 2014 9:16 pm

It's really timely for you say this, just a few days ago I was having a talk with a group of people at work, and they were AGAINST the new NASA rocket program saying "Imagine how many poor people could use that money" and "Imagine all the pollution that this will cause". I had to give them a super basic education in super basic capitalist concepts like how wealth is actually something that grows in quantity and how using the finite resources available on earth as a jumpstart to the stars was the way to save the Earth from all the environmental poisoning and pollution to get to see the merit in this worthy endeavor. I had spoken with another co-worker a few months back about assembling nuclear reactors in space so as to enable space ships that can operate for months on end with recycled air like submarines, and he said that this should be banned by the U.N. to prevent North America from doing that because it would be "evil" and "cannot be allowed". We're talking about people who work at the head office of a big bank, such is the level of socialist brainwashing that pervades even our societies these days. Don't get me wrong, they don't speak for the bank, nor for the majority of people at the bank, but they speak from their own extremely vocal and ignorant perspective, and to me it was shocking, I felt that such people simply don't deserve to work in a bank lol They blame capitalism for all their ills but they fail to see that the very ills they complain about where brought about by the socialist measures implemented by their team: maximum delusional scariness.
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