by Formerdestination » Jun 17, 2016 4:26 pm
by Oakvale » Jun 17, 2016 10:26 pm
by Americalex » Jun 17, 2016 11:41 pm
Formerdestination wrote:What do you guys think about the potential Pacific union that might be occurring with the whole Trans pacific Partnership thing?
by Oakvale » Jun 19, 2016 5:02 am
Americalex wrote:You put the TPP's impacts on North American relations and contrast them with Trump's effect if he wins the presidency (which I believe and hope he will), and pulls the trigger on his intention to cancel the NAFTA deal entirely. I'm really open to a fresh trade deal, effected bilaterally between Canada and the USA. I never liked the addition of Mexico into that deal anyway. If America brings back prosperity by returning industries domestically through tariffs on trade, this is ultimately good for Canada (especially Ontario & Quebec): if America prospers, it is good for us because they will have the means of purchasing vast amounts of our quality exports.
by Americalex » Jun 19, 2016 12:17 pm
by Formerdestination » Jun 24, 2016 4:27 pm
by Oakvale » Jun 25, 2016 5:06 am
Formerdestination wrote:I'm aware that it is currently only a trade agreement. I was more referring to the possible union that a lot of political theorist seem to predict coming from it.
Also apparently Mexico's economy is apparently rapidly on the rise. At least according to the articles I've been reading. So its position as a possible liability in these sort of things may be ending sooner than one would think.
My biggest worry on the agreement is probably Vietnam. With them being a communist country and all.
by Formerdestination » Jun 27, 2016 6:50 pm
by Americalex » Jun 27, 2016 8:37 pm
by Oakvale » Jun 28, 2016 3:30 pm
Americalex wrote:If I had to support it, I would remove Brunei & Malaysia and include Taiwan and South Korea.
by Americalex » Jun 28, 2016 3:40 pm
by -MM- » Jul 15, 2016 7:44 pm
Americalex wrote:Formerdestination wrote:What do you guys think about the potential Pacific union that might be occurring with the whole Trans pacific Partnership thing?
Hi Formerdestination and welcome to the forums! I have to agree with Oakvale about this, this TPP has an economic component that is motivated by a wish to contain China's growing aspirations for greater influence and power projection capabilities in the entire pacific region. It's an economic coalition to kind of provide the stability and growth to this collection of Asian nations so that as a collective they may have the means to mount a tenable deterrence against Chinese ambitions.
With that said, the impacts on the Canada-USA relationship of this deal will be transformative for sure.. it affects many protected industries here, that will suddenly have to open up with stiff competition from American producers.. In the case of Quebec I'm thinking mainly dairy and meat industries. Wouldn't go so far as to say it's a bad thing, as meat and dairy are found to be generally damaging to human health (something I only recently discovered thanks to Dr McDougall).
You put the TPP's impacts on North American relations and contrast them with Trump's effect if he wins the presidency (which I believe and hope he will), and pulls the trigger on his intention to cancel the NAFTA deal entirely. I'm really open to a fresh trade deal, effected bilaterally between Canada and the USA. I never liked the addition of Mexico into that deal anyway. If America brings back prosperity by returning industries domestically through tariffs on trade, this is ultimately good for Canada (especially Ontario & Quebec): if America prospers, it is good for us because they will have the means of purchasing vast amounts of our quality exports.
by Oakvale » Jul 17, 2016 4:23 am
-MM- wrote:Trump has been gaining some ground, but he is still a major underdog.
If he were to win it though, I can't help but think Canada and the US would grow further apart as Canada just elected a very liberal PM and - from what I can see - they hate Donald Trump.